Thursday, March 20, 2025

As Fast as I Could

 

 

Uncle Peg’s Chronicles

March 20, 2025

“As Fast As I Could

 


 

 

“These were their settlements. And they kept good family records.”[i]

Don’t forget to look for the title which is embedded in the chronicle.

 

GRATITUDE

 

Thanks to Jeanni and Carolyn, who came to our genealogy presentation via Zoom, and emailed me afterwards.  If others were there, let me know, as I didn’t have much time for looking at Zoom. My friend, Sylvia, not a genealogist, attended and gave moral support and took a few photos. Thanks to Kim, who shared her DNA story, plus a bit of how-to, with much gusto, gestures, and humour. She added the sparkle to the presentation. Denis isn’t in our Holmes group, but, hey, what a great addition to the presentation with his Acadian side of the story. Our audience was attentive and afterwards, asked several great questions and sent emails.

 

FAMILY ALBUM

After the presentation. I don’t know about Denis (centre) and Kim (right), but I was wound tighter than a drum beforehand, and here we are with it behind us, still pumped but much more relaxed. Kim said she was nervous as this was a serious talk, and she likes to throw humour and jokes into her talks. She also said she couldn’t hold the mike as she likes to wave her arms. She did.



 

Several people wanted to talk to us afterwards, like we were celebrities. Really made my day.

 

Peg – Samuel Holmes Jr. line

Kim – John Holmes line.

 

(Those are two of the twelve children of Sam Sr and Betty (Fountain) Holmes.)

 

1924 to 1928

 

Those are the years that our Holmes ancestors spent renewing relationships that had somehow fallen by the wayside but with organization, letter writing, and challenging travel – by hook or by crook – they managed to come together again. They reacquainted and rediscovered their family ties. And then, one by one, they died, and many of those ties died with them.

2024 to 2028

                When I complete something, I feel at loose ends. What to do next? I should go back to my Uncle Billy and Aunt Maggie article, and I will. I’ve also been working on an overview of the Samuel Holmes Sr and Elizabeth Fountain genealogy, especially in the evening, and that has tweaked my interest. I need to figure out the family of Isaac Porter, who married many times great-grand Aunt Elizabeth Holmes (daughter of Sam Sr and Betty). I haven’t found out much about him, not even conclusive evidence, but now I know where to start looking. They certainly left lots of descendants, and I’ll never have time to research them all. Some will trigger a deeper looksee, I’m sure. I am including an obituary of distant cousin Dorothy Helen Allen, which I found interesting, especially for you musicians. I have looked at the work of the Cumberland County Genealogy Society, which is quite ancient, and would like to update it, even if it’s just for me/us. I’d like to go to Amherst (I’m always saying that) and look at township records, as I don’t think they are on line. And, Kim sent me a timeline of Holmeses that someone gave her, and I’d like to delve into that.                                                                                                                                                                                       No shortage of things to do, just not sure where I’d like to begin. I will probably continue to work on the genealogy in the evenings.

(I wrote that last week. I now have something to do, and it came as a complete surprise to me. I’ve shared a bit about it on my personal Facebook. By next chronicle, I will have to have my topic and a good start.)

Here is the obituary of Miss Allen [I added some commas], and her photo is at this link:

https://fergusonsriverview.com/tribute/details/1232/Dorothy-Allen/obituary.html

Obituary of Dorothy Helen Allen

1911 – 2009

The death of Dorothy Allen, a longtime resident of Weldon St., Moncton, occurred Thursday, January 01, 2009, at the Lakeview Manor in Riverview, NB.                                                                                                                The last surviving member of her immediate family, Dorothy was predeceased by her sisters, Marianne Gross and Kay Weldon. Born in Moncton, she was the daughter the late Harper R. and Grace (McGorman) Allen.                                                                                                                                                                                After graduating from Aberdeen High School, she went on to Mount Allison University where she earned a Bachelor of Music Degree, majoring in both piano and voice. She was the first Mount Allison student to accomplish this feat in both majors, completing the seven-year program in five years. She returned to Moncton, where she started a Choral Society. Dorothy then returned to Mount Allison University, teaching music over a distinguished 22-year career.                                                                                             In 1950, she was given a leave from the University to go to Paris to study at the Paris Music Conservatory for one year. She then went to London for two years to study under the direction of an Italian Maestro. She was in London for the funeral of King George VI and the Inauguration of Queen Elizabeth. She was asked to help form a 375-member choir, which included several Canadians, including Dorothy, for the inauguration of the new Queen.                                                                                                                                             She returned to Mount Allison where she taught Music until 1962. She also taught music at Harrison Trimble High School for a year, at which time she directed the school's rendition of the musical Carousel.                                                                                                                                                                                 She was an honorary Life Member of the Moncton Music Teachers Association, as well as Moncton University Women’s Association and the Moncton Community Concerts. Dorothy was a recipient of The Governor Generals Medal for her many years dedicated service to New Brunswick. When Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip were in Moncton 50 years after the inauguration, Dorothy met the Queen at a noon luncheon.                                                                                                                                                                  Dorothy was a lifetime member of Central United Church and a faithful Central Choir member. The memorial service will be held at Central United Church on Tuesday, January 06, 2009, at 2:00 pm, with Rev. Dr. Jim MacDonald officiating. Interment will be in Elmwood Cemetery, Moncton, NB, in the spring. In Dorothy's memory donations made to Central United Church Memorial Fund, The Dr. Georges Dumont Hospital Foundation "Dialysis or the charity of the donor’s choice would be appreciated. Funeral arrangements have been entrusted to Tuttle Bros. Funeral Home 171 Lutz Street Moncton, NB.

FAMILY HISTORY LESSON

TOOLS OF THE TRADE:

Breaking down quarry stone, genealogical brick walls, and cultural barriers along Cumberland and Westmorland waterways in the early 1800s. This is a collaborative presentation by Denis Savard, Kim Campbell, and Peggy Vasseur, using Loyalist Holmes and Acadian Melanson couples as our example.

Our presentation is done. Photos, results, who was there. Etc.

                I’ve always been frustrated by the misinformation in website family trees, especially my own family. Some of it is minor, and some is blatant. Even those of us who try really hard to find and correct our trees still make mistakes, and probably always will. What we need is a solution. That solution, by the way, is not to copy my tree. What I personally appreciate the most is an email from a fellow Holmes family researcher, telling me of a mistake they think I made or asking me to reconsider a detail or an entire line.                               Several Holmes family researchers attended our presentation, in person or on Zoom. I am so pleased about that. I couldn’t see everybody as I had to focus on both audiences – not an easy task. I’m trying to think of how to bring us together – another Facebook group? Kim is on board with this, although she insists that she be allowed to throw in some humour. Just no memes. I don’t like memes.

Here is my introduction. I will put the conclusion in the next chronicle. What is in tiny letters was for just in case I had questions in regard to my statement.

INTRODUCTION

In an old building at my grandparents’ farm was a grindstone. Vaguely, I remember that it was about 18 inches in diameter, it was secured to an old work bench, and it had a handle that I liked to turn as fast as I could. [My cousin, Cindy, reminded me that it sounded like a siren that got louder as you turned it. I threw that in there.] When we cleaned out that building, I found some small tools in the cracks. I remember scythes hanging on the wall. Now I know that Gramp used that grindstone to sharpen his tools.             Years later, I went to Nova Scotia to chaperone a middle school trip to the Joggins Fossil Cliffs. At that time, you were able to take home as many fossils as would fit in your hand. It is now a UNESCO World Heritage Site. United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization.                                                                            What I did not know, back then, was that I had distant, long dead family members who had lived in the area. Most of the men were quarry workers or stone masons.                                                                                 I’m going to talk to you about the tools of the quarriers of the early to mid 1800s as an analogy to the tools we use in our genealogy searches. Every search is different, but it is imperative that we research beyond the websites we use to store our information, when we want to do in-depth studies.                     The men in this presentation generally worked in quarries around the Chignecto Bay, which borders Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, on land occupied first by our indigenous peoples, then by Acadian families who were deported. Joseph Frederick Wallet DesBarres received this land called Menudie as a military grant, and eventually sold it to his tenant and agent, Amos Seaman, a shrewd businessman who leased it to quarriers who worked for him, and I quote, “a master they respected and loved.” Sherwood, “Story Parade.” P. 130. Not all loved him, as some did not recognize his claim to the grindstone deposits on Ragged Reef. In 1838, his claim was confirmed. Dictionary of Canadian Biography. The main product of these quarries at the time was grindstones, which were necessary for the production and maintenance of edged tools like axes, chisels, files, knives, saws, and scythes. Defective grindstones were discarded and left behind on the shore, but I don’t remember seeing them. I would not have been able to hold them in my hand, anyway.                                                                                                                                                        Before the invention of the steam engine, they used oxen or horses in the quarries, for hauling. When I think of oxen, I picture them yoked together and working as a team.                                                          Last December, I received an ancestry message from Kim about her ancestor, Charlotte Holmes Patterson. Moments later, I received an email from Denis, mentioning similar details to Kim’s. That stumped me – why would two totally different people contact me about this person? Kim explained that her Holmes DNA results showed Acadian ancestry. That is why she also contacted Denis. “Who was Charlotte Holmes, who married Robert Patterson?” she asked.               Acadians in my Loyalist Holmes family? Nawwww, it couldn’t be. Kim must be mistaken. She was not.                                                                                                      Loyalist Holmes descendants in Acadian families? Really? We found that this fact was known, but Denis wanted to do more research.                                                                                                                                      We went to work together, virtually. We each had our own agenda, beyond helping each other. Kim wants to prove Charlotte Holmes’ parents; Denis wants to correct and update Acadian research; and I want to fill out my family tree correctly with descendants of the twelve children of Samuel Holmes and Elizabeth Fountain. What we share with you is just a small portion of what we discovered. Hopefully, it will inspire you in your own quest.                                                                                                                                                           Our presentation features a Loyalist Holmes family and an Acadian Melançon family, and others who married in. It is also about the discoveries that we made, the tools we used, and the results of our collaborative as well as individual studies.                                                                                                                              Using our analogy, we will present tools of the genealogical trade, old and new, that we used to research our goal. I have moved some Holmes family members to new lines and added some to my tree. Denis has done the same to some previous Acadian research. DNA matches show that Kim and I share common Holmes ancestors, although we are not a match.                                                                                             I like to find items in common to help verify information. What did these Loyalist and Acadian descendants and blended families have in common?

 

  • Place – the French communities of Cumberland – including Ragged Reef, Lower Cove, Joggins, River Hébert, and Minudie, etcetera. Our English - speaking relatives were close by but more in the communities of Amherst, Westchester, Nappan, Athol, and Lower Forks, etcetera. Some migrated to southeastern New Brunswick and other places. Robert and Charlotte Patterson moved downriver to Shulie in 1854. Shulie was probably originally Acadian, but more English in their time, based on the names in the cemetery.

 

  • Language and Religion- The people we will discuss often gave French and Catholic on census records. We found some Latin in church records. English and Protestant as well, but we focused more on the French and Catholic. In records, Charlotte and Robert gave English and Protestant denominations.

 

  • Occupation - John Holmes’ and Charles Melonçon’s male family members were often quarriers, stone cutters and masons, called tailleurs de pierre in French. They would probably have worked for Amos Seaman. Robert Patterson was in the lumber industry, a co—owner with two of his brothers of the now defunct Shulie Lumber Company. Amos Seaman was also involved in the lumber business.

 

We will try not to bog you down with too many names, but we found many individuals to place into our trees. We will focus mainly on John, the youngest son of the twelve children of Samuel Holmes and Elizabeth Fountain, and Scholastique, who went by Collet and other names, the daughter of Charles Melançon and Anne Leger. John’s brother, Zorobabel Holmes, and his family, come into play as well.

 

John Holmes and Scholastique Melanson

I have no interesting stories to tell about my Uncle John and Tante Collet, such as you might find at the Dictionary of Canadian Biography. I only have records and, as often happens, more questions. Here is where you need to use the chisel and pick, to ferret out the details that can make all the difference. The tools are the records, of course, but you must look for the tiny details within.                                        John Holmes was just that, plain John. The only deviation I found was his church burial record, which was in French, so they spelled it J-e-a-n, with an odd-looking J that looks like a G. He was not called George, as has been transcribed in the past. I found no middle initial for our John. He was not John Van Horne or John Van Horne Holmes. He was not of Parrsboro or Pictou County, or anywhere else besides Cumberland County.                                                                                                                                                                                       I found, in the US and International Marriage Records, the marriage index of John and Scholastique, in 1810. I have not found the original, and parents are not given, at least in the index. It states that she was born in 1786. According to the Westchester Township Records index, John was born in 1792. His burial records and a census record indicate that he may have been older than that.                                           The 1827 census return of Minudie states that John, head of household, had two males and seven females in his family. Charles Melançon, whose name was two lines above John’s, on that record, had a family of three males and nine females. Both families were Catholic. John Holmes was the only one of the twelve children of Samuel Holmes who was Catholic. Charlotte was allegedly born to them about five years later. Given her date of birth, we deduce that Scholastique would have been about forty-six at the time of Charlotte’s birth – late, but possible. I believe that their eldest daughters, both of a young child-bearing age, would share the same maternal DNA signature as their mother.                                                                  In 1832, John Holmes, farmer, purchased 86 acres of land on the Leicester Road, extending easterly from Amherst, and bordering on land owned by Joseph and Daniel Holmes, his nephews. In 1833, John sold these 86 acres to his nephew, Joseph. In 1855, a Minudie Church record states that John was received into the Catholic Church and baptized conditionally. Since, in the census of 1827, this Holmes family was already listed as Roman Catholic, he must have been an adherent, and then officially converted. The priest who baptised John was James Rogers, who had been ordained eight years previously in Halifax. This Irish priest preached in English, French, and Mi’kmaq, and was appointed to the Cumberland County parish in 1853. This I learned from the Dictionary of Canadian Biography, an excellent resource for genealogists.                The 1861 census states that John Holmes, family of two, lived in the district of River Hébert. Using Google Maps, I found that River Hébert and Minudie are about twelve kilometers apart, so this seems logical. This puts John and Collet at ages 75 and 79. Collet, called Christiana in her burial record, died in Lower Cove in 1864, and was buried in Minudie. The names Scholastique, Collett, Christie, and Christiana were used interchangeably in the records. The consistent use of maps was imperative.       What became a turning point in our research was the mention of John’s wife, Collet, in the deed of 1833.                                            The typical way to end a deed was to have the wife declare, separately from her husband, that she was in agreement with the sale. Up until this time, we had assumed that John had died young, but now we had a new hypothesis. We had wondered if Charlotte descended from Zorobabel, but we found nothing yet to indicate that Zorobabel’s wife, Ann, was Acadian. John’s wife was, and she has the same DNA signature as Radegonde Lambert. And, so does Kim MacDermid Campbell.                                                           Kim has joined us today, and will tell you about her results of using the DNA tool. I will now turn this presentation over to Kim.   Afterwards, Denis will tell the Acadian side of this story, and I will conclude the presentation.

This ends week twelve of our centennial virtual celebration of 1925 - 2025.

 

 



[i] The Message. I Chronicles 4:33

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